tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post8465440101629007701..comments2023-03-27T10:33:05.799+01:00Comments on the banksyboy brief: Let me through, I'm an Anglican...Peter Bankshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11581918660786956398noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-66538314057462785192010-03-03T15:26:54.851+00:002010-03-03T15:26:54.851+00:00Welcome Steve and good to have your comments... ha...Welcome Steve and good to have your comments... have followed your link and will be adding your blog to my roll... thought provoking stuff!<br /><br />Thanks Anon, have to say the Bishops I have met so far have been ok, but the establishment is another matter!<br /><br />Cheers guys.Peter Bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11581918660786956398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-290446377869886622010-03-01T12:47:48.823+00:002010-03-01T12:47:48.823+00:00The more I listen to the self interested ramblings...The more I listen to the self interested ramblings of the Anglican hierarchy, the more I want to leave and become a nonconformist. <br /><br />Bishops - damaging to faith, damaging to the country, irrelevant to GodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-33372994056396418802010-02-28T02:59:19.212+00:002010-02-28T02:59:19.212+00:00Concerning being inward-looking, I posted somethin...Concerning being inward-looking, I posted something on my blog about that a while back, at <a href="http://methodius.blogspot.com/2007/05/anglican-introversion.html#links" rel="nofollow">Notes from underground: Anglican introversion</a>, and one of the comments was to the effect that the online image of a church is sometimes very different from what is actually happening with real people. Be that as it may, I still think G.K. Chesterton's comment applies: As long as the vision of heaven is always changing, the image of earth will remain exactly the same. The modern young man will never change the world, for he will always change his mind.Steve Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11283123400540587033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-35314834896545841652010-02-26T12:33:33.319+00:002010-02-26T12:33:33.319+00:00Sam, it's a wibiya toolbar http://wibiya.com/Sam, it's a wibiya toolbar http://wibiya.com/Chris Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18319782662130679058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-40446460630465362382010-02-24T16:44:18.898+00:002010-02-24T16:44:18.898+00:00BTW where did you get the pop-up blogger bar at th...BTW where did you get the pop-up blogger bar at the bottom from?Sam Charles Nortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04088870675715850624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-74375816986624210162010-02-24T16:25:51.516+00:002010-02-24T16:25:51.516+00:00Cheers everyone!
Interesting post, Revd Sam, abo...Cheers everyone! <br /><br />Interesting post, Revd Sam, about the non-schismatic church plant... the fast sounds good and the Naked Pastor cartoon is brill ;-)<br /><br />Oh Sally, I have heard very much the same from other Methodist (particularly?) ministers... well said. And your own post today is excellent! The sense of 'greater' things going on outside the church IS very exciting and uplifting.<br /><br />Welcome, Adrian, and thanks for your contribution, spot on! I see there are some serious studies on your blog...Peter Bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11581918660786956398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-14305583506688285492010-02-24T12:04:41.844+00:002010-02-24T12:04:41.844+00:00As a "preacher bloke" I get fed up with ...As a "preacher bloke" I get fed up with sermons, too! I much prefer dialogue. It seems, though, thast many preachers are 6-feet above contradiction; don't you dare question him / her! The Jewish way of teaching / learning is sitting together - arguiong if necessary. It's much more engaging and much more fruitful. Sometimes I wonder if I enjoy speaking at conferences because I have a bigger audience than at my home Church?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-12080007887341096762010-02-24T11:53:06.088+00:002010-02-24T11:53:06.088+00:00http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4735http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4735Sam Charles Nortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04088870675715850624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-35722354069532511852010-02-24T10:43:55.481+00:002010-02-24T10:43:55.481+00:00spoken as a Christian first, a Methodist second, a...spoken as a Christian first, a Methodist second, and a minister last :-)Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01759963926280667938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-10325669379276286132010-02-24T10:42:51.818+00:002010-02-24T10:42:51.818+00:00"Superiority: Why do C of E clergy give out t..."Superiority: Why do C of E clergy give out the impression they are 'above' other ordained clergy/pastors in other denominations (except, maybe, Catholics priests?!!)?"<br /><br />Good question, I get sick of being treated as second class and somehow inferior. There is a tendency amongst clergy to be spiritually aloof and unquestionable, it is something I fight very hard against, we need to be more open and honest, to remember that we are all on a journey together, and to admit to doubts etc...<br /><br />You say "When taking part in conferences and training days there is a great separation between the clergy types and the rest of us."- yes there is and there shouldn't be, and work is needed on both sides to address that problem.<br /><br />But there is so much more to it than an Anglican malaise, you are right, we should be looking out and spotting signs of God's kingdom come in the world, I am about to blog about my experience of that this morning in a Primary School!<br /><br />As for sermons, don't get me started, very few people can produce a good and inspiring monologue week after week, and we must become more creative and interactive.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01759963926280667938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-28603179285613837932010-02-24T10:10:43.213+00:002010-02-24T10:10:43.213+00:00PS - wanted to tell you in person but I'm away...PS - wanted to tell you in person but I'm away all day on Saturday March 6th....!!Sam Charles Nortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04088870675715850624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-40117495671765513172010-02-24T09:59:20.553+00:002010-02-24T09:59:20.553+00:00I think you need to have a fast from all things An...I think you need to have a fast from all things Anglican ;)<br /><br />You prompted me to put these thoughts into 'writing': http://elizaphanian.blogspot.com/2010/02/church-plant-daydream.htmlSam Charles Nortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04088870675715850624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-6393728604024625952010-02-23T20:42:42.149+00:002010-02-23T20:42:42.149+00:00Many thanks for responding!
Tackling sermons firs...Many thanks for responding!<br /><br />Tackling sermons first I'm amazed we put up with them! There is a place for sermons, but in 95% of churches every Sunday they would be infinitely better if they followed Jesus' example of the Parable... leave a little bit to the imagination... ooops, sorry, I forgot, churches are very good at stifling imagination! I agree it is a tough call to produce a sermon every week, I just wish they weren't so proclamation and more partnership...<br /><br />On the clergy front I count my local, Revd Sam, as a best mate along with other friends who have undergone the rite of ordination. However, it seems there is an attitude that is prevalent amongst most clergy that makes them seem spiritually aloof and unquestionable. When taking part in conferences and training days there is a great separation between the clergy types and the rest of us...<br /><br />Sorry - hope that explains (a bit)?Peter Bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11581918660786956398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4734465554233359322.post-74899731345832202322010-02-23T18:41:25.909+00:002010-02-23T18:41:25.909+00:00Thanks for your challenge.
I wonder whether we ar...Thanks for your challenge.<br /><br />I wonder whether we are like this at the moment because we are in a crisis, a bit like when a couple are on the point of separating.. there is verbal abuse going on, anger, hurt.. We want to face outwards but our 'marriage' is falling apart?<br /><br />As for sermons, sorry you don't feel inspired, I think I try my best, but Greenbelt is different to producing something every week.. I could take all my best bits and best thoughts and speak at Greenbelt, but I couldn't produce that every Sunday.<br /><br />Why do you feel the clergy discount the laity? Sorry that it is so :(Lesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.com